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Re: Proposed patch for web site: update most links to HTTPS
- From: Csaba Raduly <rcsaba at gmail dot com>
- To: cygwin list <cygwin at cygwin dot com>
- Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 09:53:01 +0200
- Subject: Re: Proposed patch for web site: update most links to HTTPS
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Andrey Repin wrote:
> Greetings, Adam Dinwoodie!
>
>> Secure connections historically had a high overhead, sure, but that's
>> very rarely the case nowadays. Certainly my experince of loading the
>> Cygwin web page is that there's no perceptible difference between the
>> http and https versions. Adam Langley (a senior engineer at Google)
>> wrote an article back in 2010 about how TLS is now computationally
>> cheap[0]; it's only gotten cheaper since.
>
> Typical marketing bullshit.
Using profanity does not make your argument stronger.
The article in question is informative and fairly technical. Just
because it has several paragraphs saying "look at these neat things we
experiment with at Google" does not make it "typical marketing
bullshit".
>> [0]: https://www.imperialviolet.org/2010/06/25/overclocking-ssl.html
>
>> See also https://istlsfastyet.com/, which has a lot of discussion about
>> the impacts of TLS, but the short answer is "yes".
>
> If YOUR experience was positive, mine was always negative, especially with
> cygwin.com, down to being forced to switch to plain HTTP to even load any
> page.
>
(snip)
>> But I agree with Brian: the Cygwin website should use https everywhere
>> unless there's some good, specific reason why it's a bad idea. And "TLS is
>> slow" hasn't been a good reason for years.
>
> See above.
"One guy doesn't like it" is not a good, specific reason.
Csaba
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